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Ulana
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April 17, 2019 11:13 am  

I am looking at investing in a new filter system.  I had decided to go with the Lee system but recently a friend came across the Haida M10 system.   Any views on the Haida system? 


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Raaj
 Raaj
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April 17, 2019 11:56 am  

Hi Ulana (@uswitucha),

With Lee filters, please make sure that there are no color casts.  My experience with Lee (and others) is that cyan or magenta color casts are problematic and very tough to deal with in post, depending on the image.

I recently purchased the 150mm Haida filters for my 19mm Nikkor Tilt-Shift lens as my Breakthrough filters do not fit that lens.  I do not yet have much experience with the Haida's to give you any definitely comments.

Breakthrough are the best filters I've found - they are completely neutral.  They are better than the Firecrest filters - even Firecrest has color casts.

Cheers!


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John Motzi
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April 17, 2019 1:48 pm  

@rshinde - just to clarify - when you say color casts, you are referring to the heavy filters such a 10-stop, etc, correct?  Or are you claiming to see color casts with ND Grads, 1, 2, 3 stops?

@uswitucha - while it's always best to try first, some will claim that the 100mm or 4" filters can be used with holders from other manufacturers, as long as the filter thickness is the same.  So in theory you can mix and match.  I do that with Lee ND grads and Firecrest ND (lots of stops) in my Lee filter holder.  However I do find that my Lee ND grads are a bit tight in the Firecrest holder.  So it's not always perfect.

JM


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Raaj
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April 17, 2019 1:57 pm  

@jmotzi - John, I found color casts with all the Lee filters I tried including 1, 3, 6, and 9 stops.  I did not try grads as I tend not to use them.  Same with Firecrests, which I still own...

@uswitucha - John has a very good point about stacking filters - With my Firecrest filters, I found that stacking to get a higher ND value sometimes resulted in Newton's Rings type artifacts due to internal reflections.  It only happened a time or two but it was annoying.  Which is why I decided to get one 15 stop filter, as opposed to my previous strategy of stacking.  Stacking does work well if there is no light course in the frame but otherwise reflections can be a problem at times.

Cheers!


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John Motzi
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April 17, 2019 3:33 pm  
Posted by: Raaj

@jmotzi - John, I found color casts with all the Lee filters I tried including 1, 3, 6, and 9 stops.  I did not try grads as I tend not to use them.  Same with Firecrests, which I still own...

On the photo workshops and excursions I have attended, almost everyone who uses grads uses Lee and to your point, almost nobody uses Lee big stoppers anymore. I don't know anyone who has had a color cast issue with Lee grads.  But of course I do know everyone.  

JM


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Raaj
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April 17, 2019 3:36 pm  
Posted by: John Motzi
Posted by: Raaj

@jmotzi - John, I found color casts with all the Lee filters I tried including 1, 3, 6, and 9 stops.  I did not try grads as I tend not to use them.  Same with Firecrests, which I still own...

On the photo workshops and excursions I have attended, almost everyone who uses grads uses Lee and to your point, almost nobody uses Lee big stoppers anymore. I don't know anyone who has had a color cast issue with Lee grads.  But of course I do know everyone.  

JM

Yup, never used Lee Grads.  

The Big Stoppers have a horrendous cast and in my experience, random - I've had some that shifted towards the Magenta and others that shifted to the Cyan end of the spectrum.  I returned them promptly! 

Cheers!


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Ulana
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April 17, 2019 7:32 pm  

I have Firecrest 6 10 and 13.  There is some colour cast.  My 10 was damaged and needs to be replaced and I am planning to buy Graduated ND.  Thus the question.   Good discussion. 


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Char Davies
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April 18, 2019 1:26 pm  

I concur with John and Raaj (as they are always right) regarding Lee filters. I started with a Lee set  of filters but have migrated to Firecrest, particularly the newer Firecrest Ultra series. Imagine my surprise last fall when I pulled out my Lee Graduated NDs and found that they had faded, to a sepia tone (apparently that happens over time). I particularly like the Firecrest 100mm holder with the built-in polarizing filter. I have a full range of NDs, so stacking in the holder is not necessary.

Cheers!


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John Motzi
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April 18, 2019 10:22 pm  
Posted by: Char Davies

I concur with John and Raaj (as they are always right) ...

Cheers!

I am never always right! 🙂


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